South African Cardinal, Bishop and Sister interviewed in Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS & the Catholic Church


Journalist Michael O’Loughlin, from our sister publication, America Media, recently published a fascinating podcast called “Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS and the Catholic Church.” His investigation focuses primarily in the United States, but in the final episode he examines the context of HIV/AIDS and the Church’s response in South Africa.

Michael O’Loughlin interviews Bishop Kevin Dowling of the Diocese of Rustenburg; Sr Alison Munro, of the SACBC Aids Desk; and Cardinal Wilfrid Napier OFM during the final episode of his podcast, which you can listen to below.


They consider the problem of HIV/AIDS, how South Africa’s high infection rates are linked to gender-based violence, poverty and the migrant labour system. They say this creates a systemic evil that Church leaders say must be overcome. The issue of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS in this context is also discussed.

You can listen to the whole of “Plague” on Apple Podcasts here, on Google Play here, or on Spotify here, or by clicking on the episodes below.







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